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Archive 1

This is an archive of past talk page discussions. Please do not edit the contents of this page. If you have comments, please comment in the active talk page.

Homepage Caching

Seems like everytime I come to the site the listings on the homepage are out of date. If you append ?action=purge to the URL it will let you update it, but shouldn't this be done automatically? Maybe setup a task on the server to purge the page every night at midnight. --MrCalifornia 13:31, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

Maybe just add a refresh link on the homepage. i.e.:

refresh What's On

Or better yet, just a small one (using <small></small>) below the last table. Don't bother though, I don't think they even read this talk page, let alone take reasonable suggestions into consideration. --MateoP 20:30, 30 August 2006 (EDT)

Looks like they did it. Thanks guys. --MrCalifornia 17:36, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

Is there anyway to set it to refresh according to the browsing computer's time. I come home at 10 PM PDT and I want to see what shows have been on tonight and It only shows the next two days'. --Magoo005 22:15, 1 May 2007 (PDT)

The 40th Anniversary of Star Trek

September 8 will be the 40th anniversary of the premiere of Star Trek. It was a major influence on shows that followed and spawned a huge franchise of television series and motion pictures. I think we should have something on the main page to commemorate this anniversary. DCEdwards1966 | Talk 21:28, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

A blurb in the red table is fine by me. --MateoP 22:08, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

Calendar

Would it be possible to put a link to the Calendar underneath the What's On Today/Tomorrow section on the main page? It's great knowing what's coming up in the next two days but I also like to know what's coming up the following week and what shows that I like that will be up against each other. --Neil 20:15, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

It's been brought up. I think they don't want to do it because the article can be editted by anyone, and thus a spammer or vandal could edit it with anything (for example, porn links) which would then appear on the front page until someone could fix it. But, you can do like I do and place the Calender link on your user page for easy access. --MateoP 20:42, 1 September 2006 (EDT)

I've created my own user page, it was a bit difficult but I managed it, I've added a 3 month calender - last month, this month and next month and a 7 day list of shows. --Neil 09:07, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Wow, that's pretty neat. What I actually meant was just adding a wikilink to the main calendar page, like this: Calendar, but I see you've actually placed the calendar on your page. Not bad. --MateoP 09:14, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

I wish I could take credit but --DCEbot put the calendar on his user page first, I just copied and fiddled around with it, but trust me not to get what you were saying and then create something better than what I would have created if I had planned it :-) --Neil 10:37, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Star Trek Feature

I'd appreciate it if someone more familiar with Star Trek would flesh out the information I put on the front page. I know next to nothing about the series, but I was getting sick of seeing the far outdated upfronts on the main page. --IndieRockLance 13:14, 5 September 2006 (EDT)

Removing the out of date upfront info is fine but how about removing the also months out of date Awards nomination section? -The-jam

I could do that too. Have we got anything to put there? --IndieRockLance 14:49, 5 September 2006 (EDT)

Featured show. Winner was Prison Break.

• Could someone please fix the spelling of "Blu-Ray" (there not supposed to be an 'e')? -- Lampbane 15:40, 25 September 2006 (EDT)
  • Fixed. --Hawkman | talk 15:46, 25 September 2006 (EDT)

Link to 'Jericho' article

Minor quibbles; the link to 'Jericho' under "What's On" points to the disambiguation page instead of the 'Jericho (2006)' page. NathanaelB 10:01, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

Fixed, thanks. —Naddy 10:51, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

Featured Show for October 2006

So, is anyone going to change the front page? -- Lampbane 23:37, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

I'm having a hard time coming up with a way of describing the show. If you or someone else wants to take a crack at it, post what you come up with here and I'll replace Prison Break with it. In the meantime, I went ahead and changed the Star Trek feature to the Fall 2006 Death Watch, now that there have been some victims. --IndieRockLance 13:34, 7 October 2006 (EDT)

I'll write something tomorrow, when I'm more awake. Hopefully that will allow you or someone else to change it before tomorrow's airing. -- Lampbane 00:55, 8 October 2006 (EDT)

I'll be sure to double-check this page, too, to make sure your edit goes up. -- JCaesar^talk 04:02, 8 October 2006 (EDT)

Wow, this was hard. This is my best attempt:

The Venture Bros. is the only original action, non-anime program on Adult Swim, a violent jewel among the insane comedy stylings of the late-night network. But it's still a comedy, skewering the conventions of previous action and mystery cartoons like Jonny Quest and Scooby-Doo, as the spiritual successor to The Tick.

Dr. Venture is a former boy adventurer and a failed superscientist living in the shadow of his dead father. All he's really got is his two idiot twin sons, and his bodyguard-cum-Swedish-walking-murder-machine, Brock Samson. Even being a failure, he's got his share of enemies, including the Monarch, a butterfly-costume-wearing-megalomaniac who spends a lot of time worrying about his own messed up life.

After over a year on hiatus the show came back with a bang, resolving a lot of unanswered questions and introducing some new characters to the always-colorful world of the Venture Family. As the second season comes to an end, the boys may have met their long-lost mother, the necromancer Dr. Orpheus (Venture's neighbor) has his own superteam, Dr. Venture finally seems to be inventing stuff that works, and The Monarch has reunited with his former girlfriend, Dr. Girlfriend.

Will the Monarch finally make a decisive move against Dr. Venture? Will Brock get to slaughter more people? And what's going on with Baron Ünderbheit? Tune in to Adult Swim Sunday nights at 10:30pm as the second season wraps up with a climatic two-parter this October.

--Lampbane 16:23, 8 October 2006 (EDT)

That'll do, Lampbane. It's up. Thanks a bunch! -- JCaesar^talk 19:02, 8 October 2006 (EDT)

Request to change 'Tis the Season section

Is it OK to change the link for Cancelled 2005-2006 Season (USA). It should be pointing towards http://tviv.org/Cancelled_2006-2007_Season_(USA) --Neil 07:15, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Done. —Naddy 07:26, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Thanks Naddy that was quick. --Neil 07:42, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Extras blurb mistake

Extras premieres on January 14th not the 17th as the blurb currently states. Might want to also mention that it will be on after Rome or at least that it will be on at 10PM EST--The-jam 12:40, 1 January 2007 (EST)

Empty space on front page

How about putting something underneath the "How You Can Help" section on the front page? I know that space only exists because the "What's On Tonight" is extra-long sometimes, but you could put it to work. How about putting a list of that week's DVD releases there? -- Lampbane 16:30, 16 January 2007 (EST)

I wouldn't feel comfortable saying what they are, but there are plans already in motion for that space. I think you guys will like it. :) -- JCaesar^talk 21:54, 17 January 2007 (EST)

Search bar position

Why was the search bar moved down? It's extremely obnoxious to have to scroll down past ads to get to it. - Indecision 02:46, 11 February 2007 (EST)

I'm not really liking it there, either. --Wizardryo\^talk 04:23, 12 February 2007 (EST)

DVD page suggestion

This doesn't really belong here, but I put it somewhere else and I never got a response, so hopefully it will be more noticed here. At Template talk:DVD, I proposed a way to have navigation in the DVD infobox. I already put everything up there, so no reason to reiterate, so please go over and take a look and see what you think. I personally think that it would be very helpful. -Joltman 07:58, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Main Page fix

I created a bug fixed layout of Main Page here: User:GutwrencheR/Main_Page

The fixes:

• Swapped background colors in the columns.
• Fixed border of top bar to be inline with columns.
• Placed light background color in top bar.

-GutwrencheR 01:53, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Couple of pilot questions

I have two questions regarding pilots that weren't turned into a full series

1. For pilots that did air at some point, how should they be handled? Should they just be treated like a special, and just note that it was a pilot? In particular, I was thinking of Pryde of the X-Men, which was a half-hour animated show that was a pilot for a series that didn't materialize (The '90s X-Men show was not based on this pilot). Should we make a category for these kinds of things, like 'Category:Pilots that didn't turn into series' or something like that?
2. For pilots that never aired, are they even supposed to be here? Or should there only be stuff that actually aired on TV on here? If they do belong here, would they be dealt with the same way the above would be? I'm thinking of stuff like Heat Vision and Jack.

-Joltman 11:04, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Well we already have the unsold pilot category which includes both aired and unaired pilots. There is also the unaired series category for shows that were ordered past pilot but never aired.--The-jam 11:26, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Full 22-Episode Season Ordered?

I noticed under 'Full 22-Episode Season Ordered' it includes Kitchen Nightmares, but it only is confirmed for 10 more episodes for a total of 20. Shouldn't the header be changed? Just 'Full Season Ordered' or 'More Episodes Ordered' perhaps? -Joltman 08:15, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

Typo

Just thought I'd point out that Carpoolers is on ABC not CBS. -Joltman 07:50, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

The Pushing Daisies image for the featured show still links to The Simpsons. -Joltman 13:02, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Calendar Empty

The calendar on the homepage is coming up empty. Is it the code on the homepage (it stopped on 1/1/08) or is it just not filled in? --MrCalifornia 10:33, 12 January 2008 (EST)

It's simply not filled in. DCEdwards1966 is taking a break and nobody has come forward and picked up the slack. —Naddy 11:24, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Featured show candidate

It seems we don't really vote for the featured show anymore, so I was thinking about making it Fear Itself. I started a write-up for it, I just wanted to get opinions before I posted it:

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Fear Itself is a horror/suspense anthology series that airs on NBC Thursdays at 10PM. It is essentially a continuation of Masters of Horror, with the biggest difference being that it airs on broadcast network television as opposed to premium cable. The most notable effects of this change is that the show has to be less graphic, and each episode doesn't actually run a full hour. As with Masters of Horror, each episode features a self-contained short horror film, written and directed by notables from the world of horror. Guest stars include familiar actors from the worlds of TV and film.

Directors include John Landis (An American Werewolf in London, Darren Lynn Bousman (Saw films), Ronny Yu (Bride of Chucky, Freddy vs. Jason) and Stuart Gordon (Re-Animator). Writers include, Steve Niles (30 Days of Night), Sean Hood (The Crow: Wicked Prayer) as well as show creator Mick Garris (The Stand, The Shining). Guest stars include James Roday (Psych), Jesse Plemons (Friday Night Lights), Eric Roberts (Heroes) and Brandon Routh (Superman Returns)

The show premiered on June 5, 2008 and will run for nine straight weeks, up until NBC's coverage of the Olympic games begins. As with Masters of Horror, expect episodes to be released on DVD complete and uncut, both individually and as a set.

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I planned on getting a screenshot of the title card tonight to use. I must admit, I'm not as good at writing this stuff up as the-jam is, so that's why I wanted to propose it here before I threw it up there. -Joltman 08:03, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

There wasn't really enough participation to keep up the voting and on top of that someone had to write up a blurb, so I've mostly been picking currently airing shows with existing descriptions that only required minor modifcations to make work. I made a few minor tweaks to your blurb but other than that it looks fine and post it whenever you're ready. (If you're wondering why I changed mystery to suspense see Category talk:Suspense) --The-jam 12:50, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Yea, I figured that's why there wasn't voting anymore. As for the Mystery > Suspense, that's fine, I just copied what Masters of Horror had for that. I'll get the screenshot and throw this on the front page either tonight or tomorrow. -Joltman 17:26, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Featured Show for July 2008

I notice that the nominate link on the home page goes to the nomination page for June 2007. That should probably be removed by someone with the power to do so if there's no longer going to be any voting.

For July, I nominate Burn Notice, because:

1. new episodes start July 10
2. it totally rocks

--Davidscarter 07:54, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Network logos in What's On section

I set-up a test of a day's schedule with logos included here (alternate style here) and want a little feedback before implementing it on the main page. It takes no additional inputs as it uses the existing network input. It currently displays a question mark for networks the template doesn't have logos for but if someone has a better idea for a logo not found image I could change it. I've gotten logos for I believe all the networks we generally use in the What's On section so the question mark shouldn't come up much but it's there just in case to prevent broken code. --The-jam 12:17, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

I think it looks good. Would it be possible to have just the logo without the text and have the logo link to the network? -Joltman 13:39, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

It's not very easy to get a picture to link to an article you have to use that clickpic template we use with the featured show and it's pretty impossible to automate. So yes it's possible if I went through and got the physical location of each image file and used the clickpic template but it's not very feasible. I changed the 25th to be logo only with no link (but the image alt text is the network name and if you do click the image there is a link to the network on the image page) and changed the 26th to be logo and linked text together like I had it before.--The-jam 16:24, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

Yea, that's kind of what I thought about the logo link. I think I still like the logo by itself better. Like you say, clicking on the logo will take you to a page that has a link to the network. -Joltman 19:48, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

Okay I implemented the logo only style and it looks good but it seems to increase the load times a bit. It's not that bad but it takes noticably longer to load than other pages. The Main Page always took a bit longer since it uses so many different templates but it seems more noticable now. I'm going to keep an eye on it and see if it gets better or worse through the day as the overall server load changes. --The-jam 11:47, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

What's On data questions

Does all the What's On scheduling data come from users? Can I use it in my Home Theater PC box? Can I use it in an palm os application I'm building? Sorry to stick a question in here. Thanks -Hi5

Yes all the What's On data is manually compiled by users although it is generally done by an admin based on data found on several other websites. As long as you follow our license you can use it any way you want. This basically means as long as it is a non-commercial application and if it is a public use it properly attributes this site as the source any use is fine. --The-jam 17:05, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Adding syndicated shows to What's On

I was thinking about making a couple changes to What's On. First, I'm going to start listing the late night shows every night (ie The Tonight Show, The Daily Show) as I don't really see a reason not to. Also, I was thinking about adding syndicated shows, but I don't know how I should do it. I was thinking about making a subsection within Networks called Syndicated and just listing them all alphabetically and having all the times listed as varies or check your local listings, and maybe have a note under the Syndicated header that says something along the lines of 'Syndicated show networks and airtime vary by market'. Any thoughts? -Joltman 07:57, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

I don't see any problem with listing either late night or syndicated shows. Your idea with a subsection for syndicated series sounds fine. It might get a bit crowded though. There are a lot of daily shows but like the network listings you could limit it to the series that generally air in primetime or late night (like Entertainment Tonight and its similar shows, Jeopardy! (1984), etc.). Another thing that might be an issue is once a week syndicated shows that stations can air on any night (like At the Movies or the upcoming Legend of the Seeker) not sure where those would go. --The-jam 11:42, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

The way I planned on doing it was whatever was running in my market between 7PM and 3AM. I know it's not perfect, but I don't think there is a perfect answer. I'll start this on Monday's data. -Joltman 12:25, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

I put this into affect on Monday's data. Feel free to give me any feedback. -Joltman 18:00, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Looking at the shows you've listed I think you're missing a couple key shows (namely TMZ, The Insider and Comics Unleashed) which air during primetime or late night in most markets where they air. --The-jam 13:03, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

OK, I kind of changed the script I have. Instead of just what's on in my market from 7PM to 3AM, I now have a list of programs that I check and see if there's a new episodes on the date I'm checking for. -Joltman 13:28, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

Boston Legal

Humm.... How come Boston Legal isn't listed under "Returning Series with 13 Episode Orders"? Pierre 11:52, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

Because it can't get a full season order, that list is returning shows with short orders that have a possibility of getting more episodes ordered. Boston Legal has already been announced as done for good after 13 episodes. --The-jam 12:47, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

Hole in the Wall & Life

Hole in the Wall is not cancelled; it returns from hiatus in January. Life has been picked up for a full season of 22 episodes. --Davidscarter 09:30, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Page Navigation Links

I've noticed that we've been adding more and more information to the Main Page and it's getting kind of hard to navigate. I think we need some internal navigation links so I made a mock-up of one way to include these links, User:The-jam/Main Page. Note the sub-navigation boxes under What's On and DVD and Blu-ray Releases. Just want to see if anyone has any objections to my idea or perhaps suggestions for a different way of doing it or minor improvements that can be made before I push it live on the actual Main Page, particularly with the descriptive and link text. I'm going to change the Fall Breakdown to a Midseason Breakdown soon and add a bunch of midseason info so that column will get longer and will have it's own sub navigation box like the What's On box. --The-jam 16:57, 11 November 2008 (EST)

I'm just going to add the changes as they're easy enough to remove and I want to update the page and not have to do it twice. --The-jam 16:10, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Red links

I noticed some of the red links in episodes of Survivor Micronesia, Survivor Gabon, CSI (Season 9), CSI Miami (Season 7), CSI NY (Season 5), Digimon Season 1, Digimon Season 2, Digimon Season 3, Digimon Season 4. Even Digimon Data Squad hasn't been made. Those episode pages are needed to be created immediately. --Hornean 13:50, 10 December 2008 (EST)

The guy that used to mass create episode pages left the site so if you want those pages you should create them yourself. Just copy a previous episode and change the titles and numbers. --The-jam 10:48, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Replace featured show for new year's eve programming

I was thinking about replacing the Featured Show section with a guide to new year's eve countdown programming, anyone have a problem with that? The featured show will be back on January 1 with a new show. -Joltman 08:44, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Show links at the top

I noticed that on the show links we have on the top of this page, there are three shows that finished: Battlestar Galactica, Prison Break and My Name Is Earl. I'm guessing we want to replace these with new shows. I'll vote for Burn Notice as one of the replacements. -Joltman 08:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

punctuation, not

Take off the damned hýphens; marks do not float amid words as if they were words, especially if they were holds—but hýphen is a glottal stop, which is nothing lik a full stop. Write with proper marks such as commas or dashs. Lysdexia 04:40, 10 February 2010 (EST)

Show links at the top, Part II

It's high time 6teen, Scrubs, Lost, and Heroes are removed, since they have all ended. I vote for Glee, Mad Men, True Blood and The Big Bang Theory to take their place. --Pierre 07:20, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

Schedules

I will not be doing the daily TV and weekly DVD schedules anymore. -Joltman 07:34, 14 October 2010 (EDT)

I really miss having these available. Could you say a bit about the process you used (sources of information, scripts, etc.), so that someone else can take over? -Szrc 12:27, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Homepage Updates

The information on the homepage is out-of-date (schedules, upcoming premieres, etc.) The page is protected, so most of us cannot do the updates even if we want to. Can someone with the power to do so either keep things updated or bless someone who is willing with the power to do so? Thanks. --davidscarter 08:17, 20 November 2010 (EST)

Is this site dying?

or are there still people willing to work on it. The "Premiere Schedule" hasn't been updated in a while

there are still people working on it, but I'm not sure if any of the moderators are still on board - the main page is locked for regular users, which is why it isn't updated... :/ -Pierre 13:46, 5 December 2010 (EST)

User friendly?

I understand that measure is needed to prevent spamming. But honestly - currently it hardly is possible to edit TV IV. With the Captchas, the ridiculously sensitive "action throttle" limit, and the very slow speed in which the pages are uploaded, NO ONE who don't have a spare 5 hours would want edit this site. Are the SysOps determined to kill it off completely? --Pierre (talk) 07:30, 15 August 2013 (EDT) (E.g. - the comment above took me 8 minutes of work to be able to post...)--Pierre (talk) 07:36, 15 August 2013 (EDT)

Sorry about that. I've adjusted the rate limit to something less annoying. As far as the performance goes, I've been working on that. I've already upgraded the server, adjusted the caching and tried to optimize the pages. This has helped, but there are still problems. I'm looking at other hosting alternatives, since there isn't enough revenue to upgrade again at the current host. I'd appreciate any suggestions. --CygnusTM^talk 19:46, 25 August 2013 (CDT)